Lisa Benson for March 01, 2023

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    XF8U-3  about 1 year ago

    Does the term “low confidence” mean anything to you Lisa?

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    Justanolddude Premium Member about 1 year ago

    Still not sure how the Dept of Energy is involved. Dept of Defense, Dept of Health and human services, seems like it’s more their subject matter.

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    aristoclesplato9  about 1 year ago

    Forget the media. Forget the administration.

    We all know this leaked out of the Wuhan lab and the research was funded by Fauci thru a third party.

    Let’s just focus on making sure it does not happen again.

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    The Nodding Head  about 1 year ago

    Republicans, who believe that finishing second in elections means they win, smell victory.

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    superposition  about 1 year ago

    With hundreds of thousands of international conference attendees in Wuhan in 2019, it really is difficult to objectively pin point a source for the origin of Covid-19 … but it didn’t even slow down the conspiracy theorists from spinning their tales. I had several invitations to scientific/technical conferences in Wuhan in 2019, but did not go.

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    Kalkkuna  about 1 year ago

    Let’s wait for the ‘evi-dance’ (EVi = eventual-maybe).

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    VKent  about 1 year ago

    We are not each other’s enemy. The virus came from a lab. Let’s get to the truth to prevent it from from happening again. Remember, China is the enemy.

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    Tzinger   about 1 year ago

    The only possible evidence for a “lab leak” would be an analysis of the number of reported infections of all types of infection in lab personnel. A normal “Level 5” lab would have a much smaller number of infections of any kind from lab personnel — not zero but smaller than the population. It’s nearly impossible for any of the agents to escape. The lab does not want personnel to even come into direct contact with the agents. The air escaping the lab is incinerated. Passage of air through the building is contained by negative pressure and airlocks. You have to shower and change clothes going in or out. Death by lightning strike is more likely than an agent escaping from a lab.“Low confidence” must be confidence in the FBI evidence.

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    Radish the wordsmith  about 1 year ago

    Remember when Trump lied about covid and killed off the red wave?

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    BB71  about 1 year ago

    Listen to the Doctor that escaped from China. She says it was lab oriented and was leaked intentionally. It`s not political folks.

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    Frankfreak  about 1 year ago

    If it was a lab release, and can be considered an attack by China, aren’t the Chinese lucky that so many American conservatives were allowing themselves to die, and killing or damaging others, instead of resisting? This would not have taken arms and physical force to defend themselves, just proper masking, personal hygene and when available, taking the vaccine, thus decreasing the effects on the economy and personal activities.

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    ncorgbl  about 1 year ago

    8 investigations, 4 say “with low confidence” that it came from a lab, two said it came from the “wet market” and two say they have not determined where it came from.

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    quixotic3  about 1 year ago

    There’s not enough evidence to definitively state the origins of SARS-Covid-19. Even if there were proof of a lab leak, it would not preclude a pandemic zoonotic origin.

    The latest outbreak of avian flu has decimated bird populations (a big reason the price of eggs has increased), has crossed into mammalian species, and has infected and killed people. If it finds a way to mutate so as to enable efficient human-to-human transmission, it’ll make Covid and the 1918 flu pandemics seem like child’s play.

    But even if it doesn’t, there’s another pandemic waiting for us down the road, and we are woefully unprepared to deal with it.

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    rs0204 Premium Member about 1 year ago

    Never did I blame trump for the virus coming here. In our connected world, it was going to happen no matter what. Instead, I blamed trump for not even attempting to meet the challenge of a pandemic. He and the right-wing media instead spent their time looking for scapegoats and spreading false information; remember the famous press conference where he encouraged his top health officials to study the injection of bleach into the human body as a means of fighting Covid?

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    Radish the wordsmith  about 1 year ago

    China says ‘lab leak’ claims hurt US credibility

    Beijing accused Washington on Wednesday of harming its own credibility after a top US intelligence official said his agency believed the pandemic “most likely” caused by a laboratory incident in Wuhan, China. FBI Director Christopher Wray told Fox News on Tuesday that the Bureau has now assessed the source of Covid-19 was “most likely a potential lab incident in Wuhan.”

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    lsnrchrd.1 Premium Member about 1 year ago

    Do you, US DoE spokesperson, have empirical evidence which establishes beyond doubt where Covid originated? Then state so, showing said evidence.

    Do you only think, somewhere zero and 100 on a scale of confidence which tops out at one hundred, that you know Covid originated in a laboratory in Wuhan, China, vs among a primate group in China, or perhaps even somewhere else?

    If the latter, keep your fat trap closed until you DO know with sufficient certainty to claim the origin site for this pathogen.

    Are you somehow here in March 2023 unaware of the fact that there is a faction of the American public which is exceptionally hostile to science, government in any form but particularly one of the many federal departments formed after 1789, and the current President and his party, and that the stupid “level of confidence” statement issued by the DoE is the equivalent of throwing that rabid crowd a meaty, blood-dripping bone?

    Or are you a committed blood red RWNJ conservative True Believer™ acting to undermine the Biden administration if/whenever possible?

    Maybe even a rabbit-hole conspiracy theory junkie to boot?

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    bluegrassfan  about 1 year ago

    Anyone with over three brain cells knows it was an intentional leak. That eliminates left wing progressives.

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    cdbro  about 1 year ago

    Now why would King Fauci want to hide the fact that it was lab-made???

    And why would the Biden Admin go right along with AND FUND the cover up????

    The man on the left is Kristian Andersen, a British scientist who emailed Fauci 1/31/20, saying the virus looks lab-made. The man on the right is Kristian Andersen, the guy who Fauci called on 2/1/20 and ordered to publicly say it wasn’t lab-made, which he did. Fauci then gave him $1.88M grant, +$16.5M funding: https://twitter.com/LPMisesCaucus

    Our tax dollars paid for the creation of a bio weapon in order for self proclaimed elites to make money off of an experimental, dangerous drug.

    You can skip the “it’s Trump’s fault”. I listened when scientists in his admin and other scientists recommended alternatives to the ineffective, dangerous, experimental jabs. I listened when they recommended Vit C/D/zinc, quercetin, Ivermectin, and Hydroxychloroquine. I am thankful that I don’t have to worry for myself when I read about yet another sudden death due to heart failure. The crimes against humanity scandal is coming out, brace yourself.

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    cdbro  about 1 year ago

    After watching a recent clip of actor Woody Harrelson seemingly questioning the efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccine and its booster shots, radio host Charlamagne Tha God said most of the skeptics of mainstream COVID-19 narratives were right all along, and now normal people are waking up.

    “I think people know the jig is up,” “The Breakfast Club” host told comedian Andrew Schulz during an episode of Schulz’s podcast “Flagrant.”

    Intrigued by the idea, the radio host added, “Maybe that’s why it didn’t hit, ‘cause maybe it wasn’t in the prompter. ’Cause they knew that if it was in the prompter, it would’ve been something they would’ve made them change.”

    Clearly wanting to talk about Harrelson’s point, Schulz said, “I thought it was kind of interesting to see like a mainstream television show, like SNL that always like toes the company line — to at least put out an attempt at a joke about the pharmaceutical companies kind of forcing people to get vaccinated and boosted.”

    “I think folks know the jig is up,” Charlamagne said. “You know what I mean? And it doesn’t matter what side you’re on. I think anybody with some common sense, some eyes can look and be like, ‘Yeah, all right. That was some bulls—t.’”

    Charlamagne added, “90% of everything the YouTube scientists were saying has been true,” referring to the independent researchers on the internet who have been skeptical of the vaccine and boosters since they began to roll out in late 2020. – Fox News

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    s49nav  about 1 year ago

    “Ees not dead yet!

    “Yes you are. You’ll be stone cold in a minute.

    “I’m feeling much better now. La, la, la…”

    And it’s those who silenced and canceled the folks who raised their voices that are going to get the club to the head.

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    cdbro  about 1 year ago

    Here’s the hidden REAL reason why Fauci/FDA/CDC lied to you about HCQ & Ivermectin…

    Robert Kennedy Jr. appeared on Megyn Kelly’s podcast, where he explained the real reason why Fauci, CDC, and FDA fought so hard to discredit HCQ and Ivermectin.

    Here’s what Robert said:

    “Tony Fauci’s problem is this: there’s a little known federal law that says, ‘You cannot give an emergency use authorization to a vaccine if there is any medication approved for any purpose that is shown effective against the target disease.’ So if Tony Fauci or anybody had admitted that hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin are effective against COVID, it would have been illegal for them to give the emergency use authorization to the vaccines and they could have never gotten them approved, and a 200 billion dollar enterprise would have collapsed.” – Revolver News

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