It is a lose, lose thing. CDC attempts to minimize the damage and the anti-brainers scream, ‘My rights are being taken – damned medical people don’t know a damned thing!!!’ CDC does nothing and we discover that this is almost as bad as the Spanish flu, the anti-brainers scream ‘Damned medical people don’t know a damned thing!!!’ Darwin, where are you?
Um, if you put timestamps on the announcement one might accidently come to the conclusion that as time passed and experience and data accumulated the CDC could take that into account and update their recommendations. Or leave out the timeline and just make an inane comic.
Robert, I think that you are honest in your attempt to portray what is happening, but you must keep in mind that “sound bites” miss many important, and necessary, details. Masks mostly work to keep you from spreading the virus.
Two or three weeks after your second shot you are probably free of the virus you were vaccinated for, but there are variants which may not be affected by the vaccine.
However, even if you are free from the virus, others do not know that, which is why many places have mask requirements.
Also, good scientists update what they say as new information becomes available. What was said last week may no longer be applicable.
If you are fully vaccinated, you can resume activities that you did prior to the pandemic.
Fully vaccinated people can resume activities without wearing a mask or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules, and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance.
In general, people are considered fully vaccinated: ±
2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or
2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen vaccine
If you don’t meet these requirements, regardless of your age, you are NOT fully vaccinated. Keep taking all precautions until you are fully vaccinated.
If you have a condition or are taking medications that weaken your immune system, you may NOT be fully protected even if you are fully vaccinated. Talk to your healthcare provider. Even after vaccination, you may need to continue taking all precautions.
You can resume activities that you did prior to the pandemic.
You can resume activities without wearing a mask or staying 6 feet apart, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules, and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance.
If you travel in the United States, you do not need to get tested before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel.
You need to pay close attention to the situation at your international destination before traveling outside the United States.
You do NOT need to get tested before leaving the United States unless your destination requires it.
You still need to show a negative test result or documentation of recovery from COVID-19 before boarding an international flight to the United States.
You should still get tested 3-5 days after international travel.
You do NOT need to self-quarantine after arriving in the United States.
If you’ve been around someone who has COVID-19, you do not need to stay away from others or get tested unless you have symptoms.
However, if you live or work in a correctional or detention facility or a homeless shelter and are around someone who has COVID-19, you should still get tested, even if you don’t have symptoms.
You will still need to follow guidance at your workplace and local businesses.
If you travel, you should still take steps to protect yourself and others. You will still be required to wear a mask on planes, buses, trains, and other forms of public transportation traveling into, within, or out of the United States, and in U.S. transportation hubs such as airports and stations. Fully vaccinated international travelers arriving in the United States are still required to get tested 3 days before travel by air into the United States (or show documentation of recovery from COVID-19 in the past 3 months) and should still get tested 3-5 days after their trip.
You should still watch out for symptoms of COVID-19, especially if you’ve been around someone who is sick. If you have symptoms of COVID-19, you should get tested and stay home and away from others.
People who have a condition or are taking medications that weaken the immune system, should talk to their healthcare provider to discuss their activities. They may need to keep taking all precautions to prevent COVID-19.
the reasoning is pretty simple albeit more than a little cynical: Those that got the vaccine are all but immune, those that didn’t aren’t. And if those that aren’t vaccinated also refuse to mask up, that’s called culling the herd, or Darwinism if you prefer.
I carry my mask and a photocopy of my Covid-19 vaccination card. Still wear the mask when I go shopping. May need the mask to rob a bank with the rising cost of food. . . . /S
superposition about 3 years ago
Don’t forget to read the all-important details — the exceptions — before you confuse yourself.
brwydave Premium Member about 3 years ago
Talk softly and carry a mask, just incase you want to shop at a Kroger.
Patjade about 3 years ago
Funny thing, as situations change, so does the guidance. I’m sorry you’re having trouble keeping up.
lopaka about 3 years ago
It is a lose, lose thing. CDC attempts to minimize the damage and the anti-brainers scream, ‘My rights are being taken – damned medical people don’t know a damned thing!!!’ CDC does nothing and we discover that this is almost as bad as the Spanish flu, the anti-brainers scream ‘Damned medical people don’t know a damned thing!!!’ Darwin, where are you?
Diamond Lil about 3 years ago
I stopped believing the CDC after their fearless leader started pandering to the orange scourge
ChristopherBurns about 3 years ago
The CDC said that if you have had your vaccination you really don’t need to wear a mask. What’s so confusing about that?
walkingmancomics about 3 years ago
I think Mr. Arial is confusing ‘confusion’ with science’s increased, new knowledge.
Concretionist about 3 years ago
The RWI† says you should pay attention to the first thing the CDC says.
The RWI† says you should be annoyed that the CDC makes vaccines seem useless, even though they hate the vaccine.
The RWI† says Oh f’gawdsake NOW they’re changing their minds and saying vaccines ARE worth taking.
Robert Arial says This is all CDC’s fault for being careful and giving us updated information as it becomes available.
† Right Wing Idjits
ferddo about 3 years ago
Yep, as more people get vaccinated and as infection rates decrease, the mask requests change. No duh!
XtopherSD about 3 years ago
Um, if you put timestamps on the announcement one might accidently come to the conclusion that as time passed and experience and data accumulated the CDC could take that into account and update their recommendations. Or leave out the timeline and just make an inane comic.
TracyKlujian about 3 years ago
What’s going on with the bottom half of that woman’s face?
RAGs about 3 years ago
Robert, I think that you are honest in your attempt to portray what is happening, but you must keep in mind that “sound bites” miss many important, and necessary, details. Masks mostly work to keep you from spreading the virus.
Two or three weeks after your second shot you are probably free of the virus you were vaccinated for, but there are variants which may not be affected by the vaccine.
However, even if you are free from the virus, others do not know that, which is why many places have mask requirements.
Also, good scientists update what they say as new information becomes available. What was said last week may no longer be applicable.
briangj2 about 3 years ago
Yet again, I post:
If you are fully vaccinated, you can resume activities that you did prior to the pandemic.
Fully vaccinated people can resume activities without wearing a mask or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules, and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance.
In general, people are considered fully vaccinated: ±
2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or
2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen vaccine
If you don’t meet these requirements, regardless of your age, you are NOT fully vaccinated. Keep taking all precautions until you are fully vaccinated.
If you have a condition or are taking medications that weaken your immune system, you may NOT be fully protected even if you are fully vaccinated. Talk to your healthcare provider. Even after vaccination, you may need to continue taking all precautions.
(To be continued)
briangj2 about 3 years ago
(Continued)
If you’ve been fully vaccinated:
You can resume activities that you did prior to the pandemic.
You can resume activities without wearing a mask or staying 6 feet apart, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules, and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance.
If you travel in the United States, you do not need to get tested before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel.
You need to pay close attention to the situation at your international destination before traveling outside the United States.
You do NOT need to get tested before leaving the United States unless your destination requires it.
You still need to show a negative test result or documentation of recovery from COVID-19 before boarding an international flight to the United States.
You should still get tested 3-5 days after international travel.
You do NOT need to self-quarantine after arriving in the United States.
If you’ve been around someone who has COVID-19, you do not need to stay away from others or get tested unless you have symptoms.
However, if you live or work in a correctional or detention facility or a homeless shelter and are around someone who has COVID-19, you should still get tested, even if you don’t have symptoms.
(To be continued)
briangj2 about 3 years ago
(Conclusion)
For now, if you’ve been fully vaccinated:
You will still need to follow guidance at your workplace and local businesses.
If you travel, you should still take steps to protect yourself and others. You will still be required to wear a mask on planes, buses, trains, and other forms of public transportation traveling into, within, or out of the United States, and in U.S. transportation hubs such as airports and stations. Fully vaccinated international travelers arriving in the United States are still required to get tested 3 days before travel by air into the United States (or show documentation of recovery from COVID-19 in the past 3 months) and should still get tested 3-5 days after their trip.
You should still watch out for symptoms of COVID-19, especially if you’ve been around someone who is sick. If you have symptoms of COVID-19, you should get tested and stay home and away from others.
People who have a condition or are taking medications that weaken the immune system, should talk to their healthcare provider to discuss their activities. They may need to keep taking all precautions to prevent COVID-19.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html
pamela welch Premium Member about 3 years ago
Pretty accurate Robert — And FUNNY!
tauyen about 3 years ago
the reasoning is pretty simple albeit more than a little cynical: Those that got the vaccine are all but immune, those that didn’t aren’t. And if those that aren’t vaccinated also refuse to mask up, that’s called culling the herd, or Darwinism if you prefer.
bakana about 3 years ago
Continuing to wear the Mask is just good manners.
Until Everyone is safe, show solidarity with those who have not yet been Vaccinated.
The Love of Money is . . . about 3 years ago
I carry my mask and a photocopy of my Covid-19 vaccination card. Still wear the mask when I go shopping. May need the mask to rob a bank with the rising cost of food. . . . /S
john_chubb about 3 years ago
Funny thing about actual science – the conclusions can change when new information becomes available.
It’s called learning from experience.