There’s such a thing as doing your job. These guys seem to be enjoying it way too much. I guess either the cruelty filters down from the top, or cruel people go into that job.
Just one more stain on America’s reputation… We should be used to it by now…. They’re going to change military installations into concentration camps…. So who’s going to be the next demographic group that they are going to roundup to deport…. Black football players?? Catholic school children?? The elderly and the infirm who are not contributing to the GDP?? In this type of a political environment, we are all at risk of becoming an object for deportation Hitler called it ethnic cleansing…. What is Trump going to call it?????
ICE is not smart enough to mount a true sting operation. Much of their current evil while inspired by Trump should be laid at the teenie, tiny feet of Jeff B. Sessions who playing out the fantasies he had after someone poured a bucket of pig’s blood on him simply to get him to shut up about putting black people in their place.
^ Quite right, anyone who is trying to find work in order to feed his family has forfeited his right to be treated as a human being. I mean, what sort of low life would try to do something like that? He deserves to have his children taken away.
^ Ah, thank you; your message was at least literate. Now I follow you. Now, to clarify, we Christian Conservative Republicans are all for family values in all cases unless, of course, the parents break laws in which case they must be punished by losing their children. Jesus said, “suffer the little children” and we are doing God’s work by doing just that.
martinkilgore933, you have repeatedly been told that NeoconMan is a satiric persona, not a “Christian Conservative Republican”. Please do stop making such a fool of yourself. (Also, you might look up Poe’s Law.)
^ Ah, yes; that’s the best part of being a Christian Conservative Republican is that after Judgment Day, we can look down from Heaven and gloat over all the suffering and torturing that the Kilgores of the world are enduring in Hell because they refused to see religion the proper way, that is, our way.
Martin, in case you missed it, Baslim, Neoconman, Ahab and I are all opposed to the trump ICE debacle, but we don’t express that opposition in crass profanity but in more a nuanced manner. In truth, your sledgehammer approach is not likely to gain adherents, but satire and ridicule are more likely to show up the inhumanity of the Trump approach. I have noticed that you too often resort to invective. This does NOT help the cause. It doesn’t convince people when you call them “shifts” and fail to recogtnize that they also are humans. Maybe you could moderate your posts to see them also as humans, flawed as we all are, but nonetheless human?
But here, for your edification and perhaps education is a definition
Parodynoun: parody; plural noun: parodies
1. an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect.“the movie is a parody of the horror genre”synonyms:satire, burlesque, lampoon, pastiche, caricature, imitation, mockery;
More informal: spoof, takeoff, send-up
“a parody of the Gothic novel”
an imitation or a version of something that falls far short of the real thing; a travesty.
“he seems like a parody of an educated Englishman”
Kilgore, your original comment deserved the parody it got. You suggested a “tit-for-tat” attitude with regard to the ICE people. You would dehumanize them as much as the fright-wingers dehumanize the illegals.
Jesus did not have your “eye for an eye” attitude, but rather “Forgive them, father, for they know not what they do.” Neocon was actually promoting the latter view while you were carrying on in the vein of the former remark. Shame on you.
Threatening people with hell for doing their jobs tends not to work much anymore, and less and less so each year. You may not like that, but it is reality.
But people do not like being mocked (you certainly didn’t), whether they are the ICE crew grabbing people, or the people like Sessions & Trump, etc. The higher up the office, the less they like it because they are ever more prideful. Parody & mockery really upsets Trump, in case you haven’t been paying attention.
So how does you saying that ICE people should not be regarded as human help the children?
Are you planning to confront the ICE folks and tell them that they are not humans anymore? Good luck with that. Making someone angry at you by dehumanizing them will really help your cause. That’s sarcasm, btw, because in fact making them angry at you instead of their orders is the wrong thing to do. Study what people like Martin Luther King did when confronted with the brutality of southern segregation.
do a search on
Organizations against ICE separations
See how you can actually help, instead of calling others names.
Since you obviously missed it before, I’ll repeat what Martens wrote earlier:
Martin, in case you missed it, Baslim, Neoconman, Ahab and I are all opposed to the trump ICE debacle, but we don’t express that opposition in crass profanity
All quite true.
The practices of the ICE raids are no better morally than the entirely legal practices of slavers in separating children from parents. Until some legal ruling says that the ICE practices are illegal, your ranting (in a totally unimportant forum) that the ICE agents are non human is not going to help anyone.
You want to really help the children? Do the search I suggested and find an organization that you can help in the fight against the i administration’s actions. Otherwise, you are just venting foolishly.
Martin, I am flagging your obscenities and attacks on other posters. Be warned. No one has attacked you. You have been on the attack the whole time. All these people you are insulting are friends of mine, oddly enough we are all educated, working for many years to better lives for people in various ways, but we don’t see the need to descend into crass attacks to make our points.
^ Yes, and thankfully the USA has rejected this UN twaddle and never ratified it. Children should not have any rights; they are ours to do with as we will. And since they’re not Americans, we can put them to work in the vegetable gardens and never have to pay them. Let the Free Market do its magic.
kaffekup almost 6 years ago
There’s such a thing as doing your job. These guys seem to be enjoying it way too much. I guess either the cruelty filters down from the top, or cruel people go into that job.
ahab almost 6 years ago
American churches are silent …
Sadandconfused9 almost 6 years ago
Just one more stain on America’s reputation… We should be used to it by now…. They’re going to change military installations into concentration camps…. So who’s going to be the next demographic group that they are going to roundup to deport…. Black football players?? Catholic school children?? The elderly and the infirm who are not contributing to the GDP?? In this type of a political environment, we are all at risk of becoming an object for deportation Hitler called it ethnic cleansing…. What is Trump going to call it?????
robnvon Premium Member almost 6 years ago
ICE is not smart enough to mount a true sting operation. Much of their current evil while inspired by Trump should be laid at the teenie, tiny feet of Jeff B. Sessions who playing out the fantasies he had after someone poured a bucket of pig’s blood on him simply to get him to shut up about putting black people in their place.
NeoconMan almost 6 years ago
^ Quite right, anyone who is trying to find work in order to feed his family has forfeited his right to be treated as a human being. I mean, what sort of low life would try to do something like that? He deserves to have his children taken away.
NeoconMan almost 6 years ago
^ If your grammar and spelling weren’t so atrocious, I might be able to understand what it is you are attempting to say. Sheesh!
NeoconMan almost 6 years ago
^ Ah, thank you; your message was at least literate. Now I follow you. Now, to clarify, we Christian Conservative Republicans are all for family values in all cases unless, of course, the parents break laws in which case they must be punished by losing their children. Jesus said, “suffer the little children” and we are doing God’s work by doing just that.
ahab almost 6 years ago
Wow, satire does go over some folks heads. NASA couldn’t launch them that high without a booster. Snerk!
NeoconMan almost 6 years ago
^ (nurf nurf…)
NeoconMan almost 6 years ago
^ What the hail is a “Calibans”?
NeoconMan almost 6 years ago
No, I have “people” to learn all those things for me. Can’t be bothered.
martens almost 6 years ago
martinkilgore933, you have repeatedly been told that NeoconMan is a satiric persona, not a “Christian Conservative Republican”. Please do stop making such a fool of yourself. (Also, you might look up Poe’s Law.)
NeoconMan almost 6 years ago
^ Ah, yes; that’s the best part of being a Christian Conservative Republican is that after Judgment Day, we can look down from Heaven and gloat over all the suffering and torturing that the Kilgores of the world are enduring in Hell because they refused to see religion the proper way, that is, our way.
NeoconMan almost 6 years ago
Repent, Kilgore, and you too shall be saved. I’ll put in a good word for you with the Big Guy.
martens almost 6 years ago
WHOOOSSHHH!!!
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member almost 6 years ago
Some people are just acutely obtuse.
martens almost 6 years ago
Martin, in case you missed it, Baslim, Neoconman, Ahab and I are all opposed to the trump ICE debacle, but we don’t express that opposition in crass profanity but in more a nuanced manner. In truth, your sledgehammer approach is not likely to gain adherents, but satire and ridicule are more likely to show up the inhumanity of the Trump approach. I have noticed that you too often resort to invective. This does NOT help the cause. It doesn’t convince people when you call them “shifts” and fail to recogtnize that they also are humans. Maybe you could moderate your posts to see them also as humans, flawed as we all are, but nonetheless human?
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member almost 6 years ago
MartinKilgore: What Martens said.
But here, for your edification and perhaps education is a definition
Parodynoun: parody; plural noun: parodies
1. an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect.“the movie is a parody of the horror genre”synonyms:satire, burlesque, lampoon, pastiche, caricature, imitation, mockery;More informal: spoof, takeoff, send-up
“a parody of the Gothic novel”an imitation or a version of something that falls far short of the real thing; a travesty.
“he seems like a parody of an educated Englishman”
synonyms:distortion, travesty, caricature, misrepresentation, perversion, corruption, debasement
“a parody of the truth”verbverb: parody; 3rd person present: parodies; past tense: parodied; past participle: parodied; gerund or present participle: parodying
1.produce a humorously exaggerated imitation of (a writer, artist, or genre).“his specialty was parodying schoolgirl fiction”AND TO SPELL IT OUT IN WORDS HARD TO MISS EVEN FOR MARTIN KILGORE:
NEOCONMAN’S SPECIALTY IS PARODYING THE MONEY-LOVING CONSERVATIVE
Sometimes, he does fall out of character and post his real feelings, but he’s very funny when he’s on a roll.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member almost 6 years ago
Kilgore, your original comment deserved the parody it got. You suggested a “tit-for-tat” attitude with regard to the ICE people. You would dehumanize them as much as the fright-wingers dehumanize the illegals.
Jesus did not have your “eye for an eye” attitude, but rather “Forgive them, father, for they know not what they do.” Neocon was actually promoting the latter view while you were carrying on in the vein of the former remark. Shame on you.
Threatening people with hell for doing their jobs tends not to work much anymore, and less and less so each year. You may not like that, but it is reality.
But people do not like being mocked (you certainly didn’t), whether they are the ICE crew grabbing people, or the people like Sessions & Trump, etc. The higher up the office, the less they like it because they are ever more prideful. Parody & mockery really upsets Trump, in case you haven’t been paying attention.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member almost 6 years ago
So how does you saying that ICE people should not be regarded as human help the children?
Are you planning to confront the ICE folks and tell them that they are not humans anymore? Good luck with that. Making someone angry at you by dehumanizing them will really help your cause. That’s sarcasm, btw, because in fact making them angry at you instead of their orders is the wrong thing to do. Study what people like Martin Luther King did when confronted with the brutality of southern segregation.
do a search on
Organizations against ICE separations
See how you can actually help, instead of calling others names.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member almost 6 years ago
Since you obviously missed it before, I’ll repeat what Martens wrote earlier:
Martin, in case you missed it, Baslim, Neoconman, Ahab and I are all opposed to the trump ICE debacle, but we don’t express that opposition in crass profanity
All quite true.
The practices of the ICE raids are no better morally than the entirely legal practices of slavers in separating children from parents. Until some legal ruling says that the ICE practices are illegal, your ranting (in a totally unimportant forum) that the ICE agents are non human is not going to help anyone.You want to really help the children? Do the search I suggested and find an organization that you can help in the fight against the i administration’s actions. Otherwise, you are just venting foolishly.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member almost 6 years ago
In your accusations, you left out:
“They practice witchcraft and sacrifice children to Satan!”
“They build houses out of candy to lure children so they can eat them!”
“Anyone who disagrees with me calling people non-humans is a perverted sub-human!”
Oh wait, the last one is yours after all.
martens almost 6 years ago
Martin, I am flagging your obscenities and attacks on other posters. Be warned. No one has attacked you. You have been on the attack the whole time. All these people you are insulting are friends of mine, oddly enough we are all educated, working for many years to better lives for people in various ways, but we don’t see the need to descend into crass attacks to make our points.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member almost 6 years ago
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/02/want-to-help-children-separated-at-the-us-mexico-border-heres-how
NeoconMan almost 6 years ago
^ Yes, and thankfully the USA has rejected this UN twaddle and never ratified it. Children should not have any rights; they are ours to do with as we will. And since they’re not Americans, we can put them to work in the vegetable gardens and never have to pay them. Let the Free Market do its magic.
NeoconMan almost 6 years ago
Whoops, where did Kilgore go? Looks like I`m talking to myself again.