John McCain, who knows a thing or two about torture, called water-boarding torture in no uncertain terms. And even with a tumor, there’s little doubt McCain’s brain is healthier than Trump’s!
After all the crap thrown at Hillary by the cons, for them to complain about the comments on kellyanne & huckster is just another bit of hypocrisy. But then, we all know IOKIYAAR.
Not quite all “fake news”. That retraction was actually quite limited:
The story said that Haspel, a career CIA officer who President Trump has nominated to be the next director of central intelligence, oversaw the clandestine base where Zubaydah was subjected to waterboarding and other coercive interrogation methods that are widely seen as torture. The story also said she mocked the prisoner’s suffering in a private conversation. Neither of these assertions is correct and we retract them. It is now clear that Haspel did not take charge of the base until after the interrogation of Zubaydah ended.
BUT
The New York Times, which also reported last year that Haspel oversaw the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah and another detainee, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, published a second story this week making the same point. It quoted an unnamed former senior CIA official who said Haspel did not become base chief until late October of 2002. According to the Times, she was in charge when al-Nashiri was waterboarded three times.
The February 2017 ProPublica story did accurately report that Haspel later rose to a senior position at CIA headquarters, where she pushed her bosses to destroy the tapes of Zubaydah’s waterboarding. Her direct boss, the head of the agency’s Counterterrorism Center, ultimately signed the order to feed the 92 tapes into a shredder. Her actions in that instance, and in the waterboarding of al-Nashiri, are likely to be the focus of questions at her confirmation hearings.
Also, these bits from a Perspective by John Kiriakou, a former CIA counterterrorism officer and a former senior investigator with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
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President George W. Bush had steadfastly denied to the American people that there was a torture program. I knew that was a lie. I knew torture didn’t work. And I knew it was illegal. So in December 2007, I granted an interview to ABC News in which I said that the CIA was torturing its prisoners, that torture was official U.S. government policy and that the policy had been personally approved by the president.
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I served 23 months in prison for my whistleblowing.
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Do we Americans want to remain a nation that tortures people, like North Korea, China and Iran? Are we proud of the era when we snatched people from one country and sent them to another to be interrogated in secret prisons? Do we want to be the country that cynically preaches human rights and then violates those same rights when we think nobody is looking?
Our country cannot afford that. We cannot look the other way. We cannot reward the torturers. Gina Haspel has no business running the CIA.
The ‘reasoning’ that our enemies do it anyway is patently absurd. We teach our children two wrongs…, our law and moral code specifically forbids any such behavior, religious believers will face eternal damnation for supporting it, and it doesn’t work.
I also found information like Martin’s where Haspel did conduct torture sessions and oversaw the programs, she just was not the head person in charge when it began.
Dtroutma about 6 years ago
Hmm, he keeps on his alter types.
braindead Premium Member about 6 years ago
Actually, she’ll be part of the cabinet that Trump wants.
She will be head of the Ministry of Truth.
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#TraitorTrump
Walrus Gumbo Premium Member about 6 years ago
America rejected a second Clinton and got the Third Reich!
PICTO about 6 years ago
I believe the Spanish Inquisition called it “interrogatorio mejorado del agua.”
Ontman about 6 years ago
Water boarding or listening to Kellyanne, it’s a tossup.
Masterskrain Premium Member about 6 years ago
Kellyanne of Green Goebbels will fit right in with Adolf Twitler’s new Gestapo chief.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member about 6 years ago
For some strange reason Paul Ryan said he won’t vote for her because of the torture. I can’t see him getting a conscience all of a sudden.
Darsan54 Premium Member about 6 years ago
Gawd, that Kellyanne is downright horrifying.
Godfreydaniel about 6 years ago
John McCain, who knows a thing or two about torture, called water-boarding torture in no uncertain terms. And even with a tumor, there’s little doubt McCain’s brain is healthier than Trump’s!
Andylit Premium Member about 6 years ago
Looks like Danzinger and all the rest missed the retraction by Pro-Publica.
Or perhaps it was just convenient to ignore it.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member about 6 years ago
After all the crap thrown at Hillary by the cons, for them to complain about the comments on kellyanne & huckster is just another bit of hypocrisy. But then, we all know IOKIYAAR.
martens about 6 years ago
Not quite all “fake news”. That retraction was actually quite limited:
The story said that Haspel, a career CIA officer who President Trump has nominated to be the next director of central intelligence, oversaw the clandestine base where Zubaydah was subjected to waterboarding and other coercive interrogation methods that are widely seen as torture. The story also said she mocked the prisoner’s suffering in a private conversation. Neither of these assertions is correct and we retract them. It is now clear that Haspel did not take charge of the base until after the interrogation of Zubaydah ended.
BUT
The New York Times, which also reported last year that Haspel oversaw the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah and another detainee, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, published a second story this week making the same point. It quoted an unnamed former senior CIA official who said Haspel did not become base chief until late October of 2002. According to the Times, she was in charge when al-Nashiri was waterboarded three times.
The February 2017 ProPublica story did accurately report that Haspel later rose to a senior position at CIA headquarters, where she pushed her bosses to destroy the tapes of Zubaydah’s waterboarding. Her direct boss, the head of the agency’s Counterterrorism Center, ultimately signed the order to feed the 92 tapes into a shredder. Her actions in that instance, and in the waterboarding of al-Nashiri, are likely to be the focus of questions at her confirmation hearings.
https://www.propublica.org/article/cia-cables-detail-its-new-deputy-directors-role-in-torturetps://www.propublica.org/article/cia-cables-detail-its-new-deputy-directors-role-in-torture
martens about 6 years ago
Also, these bits from a Perspective by John Kiriakou, a former CIA counterterrorism officer and a former senior investigator with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
…President George W. Bush had steadfastly denied to the American people that there was a torture program. I knew that was a lie. I knew torture didn’t work. And I knew it was illegal. So in December 2007, I granted an interview to ABC News in which I said that the CIA was torturing its prisoners, that torture was official U.S. government policy and that the policy had been personally approved by the president.
…
I served 23 months in prison for my whistleblowing.
…
Do we Americans want to remain a nation that tortures people, like North Korea, China and Iran? Are we proud of the era when we snatched people from one country and sent them to another to be interrogated in secret prisons? Do we want to be the country that cynically preaches human rights and then violates those same rights when we think nobody is looking?
Our country cannot afford that. We cannot look the other way. We cannot reward the torturers. Gina Haspel has no business running the CIA.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/i-went-to-prison-for-disclosing-the-cias-torture-gina-haspel-helped-cover-it-up/2018/03/15/9507884e-27f8-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html
Guy Fawkes about 6 years ago
If America condones torture against our enemies
Americans condone our enemies torturing us.
The ‘reasoning’ that our enemies do it anyway is patently absurd. We teach our children two wrongs…, our law and moral code specifically forbids any such behavior, religious believers will face eternal damnation for supporting it, and it doesn’t work.
Gee, what could go wrong???
Radish the wordsmith about 6 years ago
Fascist Trump needs a torturer for when he declares martial law and rounds up the libs.
Frankfreak about 6 years ago
I also found information like Martin’s where Haspel did conduct torture sessions and oversaw the programs, she just was not the head person in charge when it began.
robnvon Premium Member about 6 years ago
Waterboard Kellyanne. Do not ask her anything. Just repeat waterboarding her until she promises never to speak in public again. Please.