Michael Ramirez for August 15, 2017

Your guys, Michael. Your guys.

You are so correct. I have no love for the white supremacist, but they have the same rights as the liberals. They had every right to demonstrate and the liberals started it………….Goes to show…mess with the wrong people and you get gored. They tried peacefully and it didn’t work. The liberals paid the price.

Hit it on the head……again.

When a group takes down monuments as was done in Durham N.C. yesterday, they are showing what fascism really is. Removing the history of the U.S. is the real goal of these people, who want to rewrite our history and constitution to be in power, but we will not allow them to win.

You might want to quote more from that letter, Michael: “The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, physically, and socially. The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their further instruction as a race, and will prepare them, I hope, for better things. How long their servitude may be necessary is known and ordered by a merciful Providence. Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild and melting influences of Christianity than from the storm and tempest of fiery controversy.” In other words, slavery is bad, but its necessary to educate blacks, and certainly we should do nothing to get rid of it.

I at least give Mr. Ramirez credit for being on the correct side of this issue, unlike Mr. Lester.

the fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascist. welcome to the future.

If only President Trump was as quick to respond as the statue in the cartoon.

As Lonecat pointed out, right wingers like Ramirez still admire Lee & seek to rehabilitate the real legacy of a man who betrayed his country to fight for the preservation of slavery.

Lee may have believed slavery was a bad idea in theory, but in practice he personally supervised the lashing of his slaves when they disobeyed or attempted to escape to freedom.

starcandles says, "The anti-fa group instigated the violence. " Just as the anti-fa American Military instigated the violence against Nazi Germany at D-Day. Those paid leftist soldiers also threw the first punch.

We fought WW II and the Civil War to get rid of those fascist jerks. The right wing should grow up and join humanity.

How many Antifa fascists know that Robert E. Lee did not own slaves?

^Oh, really??

“On June 2, 1859, the Carroll County Democrat reported that four fugitive slaves had been arrested in Westminster, Maryland. There was little to distinguish this report from the many others published in the Carroll County Democrat except for one small detail: these slaves were owned by Colonel Robert E. Lee, of Arlington, Virginia.”

http://www.crossroadsofwar.org/discover-the-story/the-coming-storm/civil-war-stories/

Ironically after the Civil War I the South made more inroads by other means since then. There are more of them both North, South and Mid West.

YOUR GUYS, Ramirez! Just as TWCLIX says in the first comment.

These are YOUR GUYS from the first “Obama was born in Kenya” right through Trump’s Wall and to the cowardly terrorist attack in Charlottesville.

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Ramirez is shocked, just shocked, that a group of Trump Disciples would do such a thing.

Now, he wants to disassociate himself from that group without criticizing Trump, who inspired them and who inspires Ramirez.

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If Ramirez thought there was any way to blame that woman’s death on Obama he would try to do so, to the cheers of the Trump Disciples who post here.

The absolute brain-dead white supremacist, confederate-conservative Nazi’s are actually trying to brand those who are anti-Fascist and those who believe Black Lives Matter are the evil ones! The white supremacist, confederate-conservative Nazi’s are actually publicly acknowledging they support fascism and racial bigotry!

Trump is now asking if statues of Jefferson and Washington will be taken down. Well, perhaps someone should tell the President that neither Washington or Jefferson led armed rebellions against the United States of America. That may be a nuance that he hasn’t really considered.

He’s your president (face palm)

Losers, indeed.

The whole Dixie worship thing has always been about loyalty to a lost, immoral cause. A cause that declared men and women to be chattel for no reason other than their race. And the folks on the alt-right, the Klan, the white nationalists and the neo-nazis want to maintain and revive that immoral cause.

How many statues are there of Benedict Arnold? And other “Loyalists” of the Revolutionary War? Some of the latter were also brave. Some even opposed slavery. But they lost. And their cause was ultimately the perpetuation of a system that allowed the “gentry” to keep lording it over the common folk through privilege rather than merit.

It’s not about covering up history. That’s what the Dixie worship does. It’s about not allowing an immoral cause to be honored.

Robert E Lee was not this great moral opponent of slavery who only fought for the Confederacy out of loyalty to his home state. His wife had inherited her father’s estate. Lee took over the day to day running of it. One thing he did was deny freedom to the slaves who had been granted freedom in his father-in-law’s will. He personally whipped a female slave when the overseer refused to do it.

La Raza is not a violent racist group OAKSTONE. Racist just like to promote hate against organizations promoting family and cultural awareness, like La Raza. www.laweekly.com/news/dear-trump-fans-la-raza-is-not-a-racist-term-7003572

To the editor of the N. Y. Tribune.

Sir: I live one mile from the plantation of George Washington P. Custis, now Col. Lee’s, as Custis willed it to Lee. All the slaves on this estate, as I understand, were set free at the death of Custis, but are now held in bondage by Lee. I have inquired concerning the will, but can get no satisfaction. Custis had fifteen children by his slave women. I see his grandchildren every day; they are of a dark yellow. Last week three of the slaves ran away; an officer was sent after them, overtook them nine miles this side of Pennsylvania, and brought them back. Col. Lee ordered them whipped. They were two men and one woman. The officer whipped the two men, and said he would not whip the woman, and Col. Lee stripped her and whipped her himself. These are facts as I learn from near relatives of the men whipped. After being whipped, he sent them to Richmond and hired them out as good farm hands.

Yours,

A Citizen.

Washington, June 19, 1859.

Lee had some misgivings about slavery when younger, but not enough to turn his back on it as an institution. He valued that an insurrection designed to preserve that institution as more worthy of his support than the nation in whose armed forces he served.

By the time Lee was on horseback in that uniform and killing loyal Americans, he would never have made any such statement as on the statue here. Ramirez should be ashamed.

Robert E Lee can count himself among the losers, a loser in war, a loser in life and a loser of a role model for these loser racists. Nice try though, I suppose he means BOTH sides right?

I wish you could take a look at yourselves here. Feeling free to continue and escalate the discussion hiding behind unidentifiable icons and user names. Perhaps the internet is the real perp.

Any of you ever notice, every time the dems get in a bind, out come the Nazis or KKK to ‘help the conservative’? If that doesn’t work, then someone dies. dnc/kkk=nazi party usa