So Mike…I’m thinking that a few weeks ago ISIS was in Syria and feeling a little down. Assad had aircraft and a fairly loyal military and they just weren’t moving ahead as fast as they wanted. Then this Iraqi who is in charge of Isis says..“HEY! I’ve got lots of friends down south in Iraq, just across the border and they and their neighbors REALLY hate the leader there. He’s divided the military and gov’t and wouldn’t let those annoying Americans leave a residual force… I bet we could go down there and take some land and maybe even get some loot. Let’s take the guys for a drive and see what we can do.”Then, they came down and found out the country was ripe for a civil war and no one as dropping chlorine barrels on them.I jus have to wonder, before the firing squads opened up on them, do you think the Iraqis who surrendered peacefully would have liked a do over?Curiously,C.
Shiitte vs. Sunni in Iraq and Syria.Tutsi vs. Huutuu in Rwanda.Protestant vs. Catholic in Ireland.Republican/Conservative vs. Democrat/Liberal in the USA.The things people do in the name of God and Country.Sadly…C.
I generally like Arial’s stuff, but to imply there was no sectarian violence in Iraq before Saddam was toppled is pure nonsense. Anyone remember how many times the Sunni Saddam gassed his Kurdish and Shia countrymen who dared to rise up and oppose his regime?
“^He who is not “us” is THEM, and must die, or at least be removed from the lands and privileges we demand for ourselves alone." First and most long-lasting teaching of the book of anger and hate, followed by thousands of Christian Sects, not nearly so many Jewish or Muslim sects, but still divided by that book they hold in common…
That’s funny…I worked for a butcher as a teen and his tripe, the culinary term for stomach tissue used in assorted recipes, was quite popular. I’ve had it deep fried but it was the seasoning, not the flavor of the tripe itself, that made it worth eating.thank you for the memory, Baslim.Be well.Sincerely,C.
“Iraq” is less than 100 years old. Islam goes back to what, roughly 700 C.E., and the killing between competing tribes goes back some 4,000 plus years, mostly started by those who claimed they were “the chosen ones”. But, wait a minute, WE, the U.S., are supposed to be the “boss of them”, and they’re supposed to listen to US???
Self-assured arrogance and stupidity reached the potential zenith with Bush/Cheney, Mongols, the Romans, Greeks, French, Dutch, and even Brits didn’t have the power to overreach so far. Now we’re supposed to quake in our boots because of a splinter group of extreme radicals are going to ride camels into Detroit, Memphis, L.A., Seattle, and New York and take over?
Right wingers bent on empire are a real mixed metaphor, but I can’t think what that would be exactly, as TEA’s don’t even realize they’re the RINOs.
dtroutma, normally I like your posts, but I’d like you to proceed with an explanation as to how “the chosen ones”, whoever they are, are responsible for “4,000 plus years” of killing. The Sumerians? The Chaldeans?
Kaffekup: I intentionally was vague on “the chosen”, as many highly religious folks have labeled themselves as such, it’s part of that history of religion, in fact.
mdavis: you obviously know squat about ‘Nam. Tet ’68 gets lots of attention, and I assume that’s what you’re speaking of, but you overlook that it was NIXON who came in in January, 1969, and he and Kissinger screwed the pooch from that point on. I laughed hysterically when folks got upset because Nixon went into Cambodia “for the first time”. HAR! If you want to blame the loss in ‘Nam, go back to the French, Eisenhower, yes LBJ, and finally Nixon, and the close-out under Ford in ’75. My dachshund knows more about what happened in ’Nam than you. (And he doesn’t try to put a lying artificial political spin on it, and he can understand commands in Vietnamese, German, English, or Mojave, and being a Dachsie, can ignore them in all four as well, just like a current “Republican” can ignore any truth, let alone command.)
Random Nick Premium Member almost 10 years ago
@Michael wme: I can’t tell if this is satire any more or if you are seriously nuts. That is the MOST ridiculous load of tripe I have seen this year.
chazandru almost 10 years ago
So Mike…I’m thinking that a few weeks ago ISIS was in Syria and feeling a little down. Assad had aircraft and a fairly loyal military and they just weren’t moving ahead as fast as they wanted. Then this Iraqi who is in charge of Isis says..“HEY! I’ve got lots of friends down south in Iraq, just across the border and they and their neighbors REALLY hate the leader there. He’s divided the military and gov’t and wouldn’t let those annoying Americans leave a residual force… I bet we could go down there and take some land and maybe even get some loot. Let’s take the guys for a drive and see what we can do.”Then, they came down and found out the country was ripe for a civil war and no one as dropping chlorine barrels on them.I jus have to wonder, before the firing squads opened up on them, do you think the Iraqis who surrendered peacefully would have liked a do over?Curiously,C.
OmqR-IV.0 almost 10 years ago
wondered: “Remember the magazine cover story on the young Afghanistani woman ? .. or was she an Iraqi ?”
Doesn’t matter, they all look alike. :-|
chazandru almost 10 years ago
Shiitte vs. Sunni in Iraq and Syria.Tutsi vs. Huutuu in Rwanda.Protestant vs. Catholic in Ireland.Republican/Conservative vs. Democrat/Liberal in the USA.The things people do in the name of God and Country.Sadly…C.
truthsayer almost 10 years ago
I generally like Arial’s stuff, but to imply there was no sectarian violence in Iraq before Saddam was toppled is pure nonsense. Anyone remember how many times the Sunni Saddam gassed his Kurdish and Shia countrymen who dared to rise up and oppose his regime?
Dtroutma almost 10 years ago
“^He who is not “us” is THEM, and must die, or at least be removed from the lands and privileges we demand for ourselves alone." First and most long-lasting teaching of the book of anger and hate, followed by thousands of Christian Sects, not nearly so many Jewish or Muslim sects, but still divided by that book they hold in common…
TripleAxel almost 10 years ago
Why Obama “Owns” Iraq:http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/06/why-obama-owns-iraq.php
chazandru almost 10 years ago
That’s funny…I worked for a butcher as a teen and his tripe, the culinary term for stomach tissue used in assorted recipes, was quite popular. I’ve had it deep fried but it was the seasoning, not the flavor of the tripe itself, that made it worth eating.thank you for the memory, Baslim.Be well.Sincerely,C.
moosemin almost 10 years ago
In total agreement.
Dtroutma almost 10 years ago
“Iraq” is less than 100 years old. Islam goes back to what, roughly 700 C.E., and the killing between competing tribes goes back some 4,000 plus years, mostly started by those who claimed they were “the chosen ones”. But, wait a minute, WE, the U.S., are supposed to be the “boss of them”, and they’re supposed to listen to US???
Self-assured arrogance and stupidity reached the potential zenith with Bush/Cheney, Mongols, the Romans, Greeks, French, Dutch, and even Brits didn’t have the power to overreach so far. Now we’re supposed to quake in our boots because of a splinter group of extreme radicals are going to ride camels into Detroit, Memphis, L.A., Seattle, and New York and take over?
Right wingers bent on empire are a real mixed metaphor, but I can’t think what that would be exactly, as TEA’s don’t even realize they’re the RINOs.
kaffekup almost 10 years ago
dtroutma, normally I like your posts, but I’d like you to proceed with an explanation as to how “the chosen ones”, whoever they are, are responsible for “4,000 plus years” of killing. The Sumerians? The Chaldeans?
Dtroutma almost 10 years ago
Kaffekup: I intentionally was vague on “the chosen”, as many highly religious folks have labeled themselves as such, it’s part of that history of religion, in fact.
mdavis: you obviously know squat about ‘Nam. Tet ’68 gets lots of attention, and I assume that’s what you’re speaking of, but you overlook that it was NIXON who came in in January, 1969, and he and Kissinger screwed the pooch from that point on. I laughed hysterically when folks got upset because Nixon went into Cambodia “for the first time”. HAR! If you want to blame the loss in ‘Nam, go back to the French, Eisenhower, yes LBJ, and finally Nixon, and the close-out under Ford in ’75. My dachshund knows more about what happened in ’Nam than you. (And he doesn’t try to put a lying artificial political spin on it, and he can understand commands in Vietnamese, German, English, or Mojave, and being a Dachsie, can ignore them in all four as well, just like a current “Republican” can ignore any truth, let alone command.)
pirate227 almost 10 years ago
GWB:“Miss me yet?”Iraq:“No, the blood is flowing better than ever.”
kaffekup almost 10 years ago
Pretty fancy two-step there. Not buyin’ it, though.