What the heck does Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniacki and Bill Gates with Paul Alan did so with their first pcs in their parent’s garage have to do with the FACT that the people they hire to do their engineering work NOW are college graduates, mostly with 4 year degrees and many with Masters? Co-Op students on summer jobs are working under/along with an experienced engineer. Companies doing it to check them out. Co-op students usually cost more than the work they do is worth.
You make no sense.
I know all about Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniacki, etc. I’m about the same age so it wasn’t ancient history for me, it was real time. I have a class mate who went to work for Apple way back then and is now extremely well off. I worked as a cop-op at IBM before working there full time and then moved on to other peripheral/storage companies. Like I said, there’s a chance there’s some firmware of mine still in some computers being used, given how much firmware get reused. Heck, there are still hooks for supporting Main Frame Count Key Data formats because of code reuse.
Yes, I went to two universities and have two degrees. And you? You are so bitter about it, did you not hack it? Not everyone can. Or did you not find the job you imagined you’d find afterwards? Or did you not REALLY go at all and are just envious of those of us who did? Why should I believe YOU?
You did a bit of low level design work while working through college? So what. Many of us did co-op jobs to help pay for our college. That was how many companies checked us out before hiring us after graduation. I did it, my spouse did it and even my daughter did it in the 2010’s. Believe me, after working with many a co-op student, they weren’t given major design work.
Not the same as trade school graduate unless you were a trade school graduate who then decided to go and get a 4 year degree.
When I compare what it took to save up for and buy a house back in the 1980s compared to now, I’d say it is a LOT harder for the younger generation when it comes to being able to afford housing. My spouse and I were home owners by age 25, while he worked AND put me through a second degree (without a loan because tuition was $400 per semester). While interest rates were high, it wasn’t that hard to save up for a down payment. Nowadays, the same house goes for $500,000 and that’s going to need a heck of a down payment.
Exactly right. Biden is NOT offering College loan forgiveness to use our tax dollars to fund antisemitism. Cripes, he offered college loan forgiveness WAY before the current Israel/Palestinian war. Biden is offering College loan forgiveness to fund higher education. Wow, what an incredibly simple thought process one must have to think that Biden’s loan forgiveness has anything to do with antisemitism.
HAHAHAHAHA! I can tell you have NO idea what goes into getting a 4 year (or higher) engineering degree. No, odds very much favor that the engineer who designed whatever device you post from got at least a 4 year degree – and not from a trade school. Depending on what the device is, there is a chance some of MY work is in that design. Trade school doesn’t teach complex electronic or software engineering and the accompanying math, physics, and other sciences. You think there is a lot of fluff in those courses? No, there isn’t.
So? I can guarantee you that the people they hire to do their engineering work are college graduates, mostly with 4 year degrees and many with Masters. How do I know? Because THAT was my field before I retired. Did I do well? Yes, very very well.
Good point about news. Yes, I too rely on at least ten different news sources, most of which are highly regarded such as the BBC. As opposed to the few sources the Right Wing seem to rely on such as NewsMax or Fox.
I noticed that Jack didn’t answer your question. Do you believe what he says about going to college?