Did Violent Political Gun Rhetoric = Az. Shooting?
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I get what this is saying, the “pot calling the kettle black…” and while there’s no harm in asking the question, saying one group in particular over another’s, is.
all those who knew Jared Loughner are telling reporters that his plotting to use bullets to kill the Congresswoman and a crowd of strangers could not have been based on any political issues.
Loughner avoided news and talk radio and TV….he was living in his own alternate universe without any connection to reality or other people. He was using drugs and hallucinating and he expressed insane ideas…..”the government” was brainwashing Americans…etc etc…
How would it be possible for media to influence someone who was never tuned in to media???? And if media had power to influence people to commit mass murder, why is he the lone example, or one of a short list of lone examples over the years, in a tuned-in nation of more than 300 million people????
jade: if there’s nothing wrong with asking the question (and there shouldn’t be) then where in the toon’s question does it blame one group over another. It doesn’t.
“He was using drugs and hallucinating and he expressed insane ideas…..”the government” was brainwashing Americans…etc etc…”
Tnere ARE right wing people who do say the government is brainwashig people (Alex Joes and his crowd) as well as people (the Tea Party people) who take 1984 as gospel.
Just imagine a schizophrenic reading that book; he is being tortured day and night by voices coming from inside his mind. The only explaination anyone can give him is that those voices “aren’t real” . How frustrating amd humiliating
They really do think someone is sending them those voices telepathically to torture them.
To the patient, those voices can’t be any more real, he hears the day and night. And SOMEONE must be sending him those on purpose! If not, that means he’s crazy and that’s hard to accept.
Then the patient reads 1984 and then meets people who take it seriously. With its stories of mind control and goverment surveillance of everyone and everything it tells him exactly what he wants to hear; that he is not insane (and that it’s everyone else who are just being brainwashed and watched) and that there is someone to blame for his voices.
The guy is tortured day and night by his hallucinations (that’s what those voices are, hallucinations). Don’t you think he’ll attack one of those he thinks is responsible?
I know that when mr Orwell wrote 1984, he wanted to warn the people against over powerful governments (real dangers at the time), but he also wrote a schizophrenic fantasy.
It is a masterpeece of litterature, but it is also a very dangerous book.
Church; but in 1984 (and the people who take that and Ayn Rand as gospel) violent rebellion is the ONLY way of getting rid of a government that controls everything. Liberals mostly see UNARMED (you don’t see liberals carry guns at rallies) protests as a way to denounce intrusive government.
By the way, can anyone tell me if Alex jones and David Icke are left or right? I don’t know and it doesn’t matter to me. They both tell what a schizophreniac wants to hear.
Also, leftists use rational arguments in their question of the patriot acts, not novels (not that the word 1984 hasn’t been pronounced by liberals, but it isn’t the corner stone of their ideas).
IN 1984 it was notable the parallels between the book and the date, like the MX “peacekeeper” missile and newspeak. Today it might also be noted that Blair’s (Orwell’s) father worked for British State Dept., his job was to get Afghans to grow more opium to help Britain “conquer” the Chinese through addiction.
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
I get what this is saying, the “pot calling the kettle black…” and while there’s no harm in asking the question, saying one group in particular over another’s, is.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
Or “KILL this job KILLING health bill. We will KILL IT!”
disgustedtaxpayer over 13 years ago
all those who knew Jared Loughner are telling reporters that his plotting to use bullets to kill the Congresswoman and a crowd of strangers could not have been based on any political issues.
Loughner avoided news and talk radio and TV….he was living in his own alternate universe without any connection to reality or other people. He was using drugs and hallucinating and he expressed insane ideas…..”the government” was brainwashing Americans…etc etc…
How would it be possible for media to influence someone who was never tuned in to media???? And if media had power to influence people to commit mass murder, why is he the lone example, or one of a short list of lone examples over the years, in a tuned-in nation of more than 300 million people????
Motivemagus over 13 years ago
Ever heard of the Internet disgusted? Oh, yes, you’re using it now! So did Loughner…
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 13 years ago
Mental illness is not enough to make someone violent…the sick person needs someone to be violent against, a target…
…and irresponsible political paranoia desguised as journalism may give them a culprit to turn against.
See my post on the Chris Britt cartoon
believecommonsense over 13 years ago
jade: if there’s nothing wrong with asking the question (and there shouldn’t be) then where in the toon’s question does it blame one group over another. It doesn’t.
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
^ No, it doesn’t. I’m speaking of something else.
believecommonsense over 13 years ago
^ ahh, OK
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 13 years ago
Taxpayer;
“He was using drugs and hallucinating and he expressed insane ideas…..”the government” was brainwashing Americans…etc etc…”
Tnere ARE right wing people who do say the government is brainwashig people (Alex Joes and his crowd) as well as people (the Tea Party people) who take 1984 as gospel.
Just imagine a schizophrenic reading that book; he is being tortured day and night by voices coming from inside his mind. The only explaination anyone can give him is that those voices “aren’t real” . How frustrating amd humiliating
They really do think someone is sending them those voices telepathically to torture them.
To the patient, those voices can’t be any more real, he hears the day and night. And SOMEONE must be sending him those on purpose! If not, that means he’s crazy and that’s hard to accept.
Then the patient reads 1984 and then meets people who take it seriously. With its stories of mind control and goverment surveillance of everyone and everything it tells him exactly what he wants to hear; that he is not insane (and that it’s everyone else who are just being brainwashed and watched) and that there is someone to blame for his voices.
The guy is tortured day and night by his hallucinations (that’s what those voices are, hallucinations). Don’t you think he’ll attack one of those he thinks is responsible?
I know that when mr Orwell wrote 1984, he wanted to warn the people against over powerful governments (real dangers at the time), but he also wrote a schizophrenic fantasy.
It is a masterpeece of litterature, but it is also a very dangerous book.
rockngolfer over 13 years ago
For me, having a gun beside me when I sleep has been a habit of more than 40 years.
My cat won’t protect me, and Florida is like the wild west sometimes.
As a Homeowners Association Director from 1999 to 2007, I had a lot of nuts threaten me.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member over 13 years ago
Church; but in 1984 (and the people who take that and Ayn Rand as gospel) violent rebellion is the ONLY way of getting rid of a government that controls everything. Liberals mostly see UNARMED (you don’t see liberals carry guns at rallies) protests as a way to denounce intrusive government.
By the way, can anyone tell me if Alex jones and David Icke are left or right? I don’t know and it doesn’t matter to me. They both tell what a schizophreniac wants to hear.
Also, leftists use rational arguments in their question of the patriot acts, not novels (not that the word 1984 hasn’t been pronounced by liberals, but it isn’t the corner stone of their ideas).
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
IN 1984 it was notable the parallels between the book and the date, like the MX “peacekeeper” missile and newspeak. Today it might also be noted that Blair’s (Orwell’s) father worked for British State Dept., his job was to get Afghans to grow more opium to help Britain “conquer” the Chinese through addiction.