Other than trolling progressives, liberal and moderate conservatives, and moderate liberals, et cetera, Payne may have started believing Steampunk is real …
And.. as soon as electric cars are taxed for their fuel at the same rate that gasoline is.. That electric car might not be the bargain you thought it was.
Unless other American auto makers start making electric cars like the Tesla they may find at least one country where they will be unable to sell any cars whatsoever. Norway plans to eliminate sales of all gas and diesel powered cars by 2025. I don’t know if they will make that goal, but they have so far already beaten all their intermediate goals toward this end.
No one has thought that one possible reason for the temporary lower price of gas is because more people are buying hybrid and electric vehicles. Also, unless Payne lives in Texas, gas is most likely a dollar more per gallon.Also, realistically, taxes paid now in fuel purchases should be paid by mileage used by the vehicle. The present system assumes that average fuel usage reflects the size of the vehicle and therefore its wear on the roads that the taxes (supposedly) pay for maintaining. With more and larger vehicles being built with hybrid and electric propulsion, that responsibility is being placed more and more onto drivers that can’t afford the newer technology, mainly the poor.
I suggest a more equal form of road use taxation. Remove the gas tax and instead require an “honor” system where people report their average annual mileage and pay road use taxes accordingly. The tax rate would be based on their vehicle’s weight where a person with a heavier vehicle would pay more than a person with a lighter vehicle (what you drive is a matter of vehicle registration). The caveat is when you sell or release your vehicle. Many states require your odometer be recorded in the selling or release document. If the actual miles is greater than the estimate, you pay the difference. If it is less, you get that money back. Every penny. There are other details to work out (interstate trucking, for example), but that’s my best suggestion for a Saturday morning.
While the rest of the world converts to electric cars, the USA will be a captive consumer for the Saudis. $10 a gallon for us and meanwhile, the rich will have their electric cars.
We’re paying a dollar ten more a gallon for regular, I remember when it was 23 CENTS a gallon, back in the gas guzzler 60’s. Don’t worry Payne, the glut is on right now, but the fossil fuel guys will keep manipulating. One thing states are looking at is taxing the MILES DRIVEN rather than gallons consumed, which means hybrids and electrics are making inroads, which we need to have happen. That’s why “oil” companies are investing in solar and wind, or other alternates so they won’t lose out when we do, if as needed, get serious about reducing carbon imprint.
@TXGal: You have a legitimate use evidently of your need for what you drive. Compare that with what I mostly see in a semi-rural part of Oregon:Dodge Diesel Dually’s looking brand new and carrying nothing more than the Chihuahua in the driver’s lap. This isn’t the exception, I’m sorry to say. They look so new because the trucks only serve as testosterone supplements. All they carry are 250lb bags of hot air.
Fact: In 1909, Payne’s great-grandpappy drew the same cartoon with a horse drawn carriage & one of those crazy Model T’s that Henry Ford said would be the future of transportation. Even by 1912, Ford sold a meager 68,000 Model Ts.
Say What Now‽ Premium Member almost 7 years ago
That’s right Mr. Payne, the future does not exist.
braindead Premium Member almost 7 years ago
Just when you think Payne’s cartoons can’t get any dumber…
superposition almost 7 years ago
Other than trolling progressives, liberal and moderate conservatives, and moderate liberals, et cetera, Payne may have started believing Steampunk is real …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk
Radish the wordsmith almost 7 years ago
The gas here costs a dollar more per gallon. Electric cars are flying out of the showrooms.
Alberta Oil Premium Member almost 7 years ago
And.. as soon as electric cars are taxed for their fuel at the same rate that gasoline is.. That electric car might not be the bargain you thought it was.
Lyman Elliott Premium Member almost 7 years ago
Unless other American auto makers start making electric cars like the Tesla they may find at least one country where they will be unable to sell any cars whatsoever. Norway plans to eliminate sales of all gas and diesel powered cars by 2025. I don’t know if they will make that goal, but they have so far already beaten all their intermediate goals toward this end.
mr_sherman Premium Member almost 7 years ago
No one has thought that one possible reason for the temporary lower price of gas is because more people are buying hybrid and electric vehicles. Also, unless Payne lives in Texas, gas is most likely a dollar more per gallon.Also, realistically, taxes paid now in fuel purchases should be paid by mileage used by the vehicle. The present system assumes that average fuel usage reflects the size of the vehicle and therefore its wear on the roads that the taxes (supposedly) pay for maintaining. With more and larger vehicles being built with hybrid and electric propulsion, that responsibility is being placed more and more onto drivers that can’t afford the newer technology, mainly the poor.
I suggest a more equal form of road use taxation. Remove the gas tax and instead require an “honor” system where people report their average annual mileage and pay road use taxes accordingly. The tax rate would be based on their vehicle’s weight where a person with a heavier vehicle would pay more than a person with a lighter vehicle (what you drive is a matter of vehicle registration). The caveat is when you sell or release your vehicle. Many states require your odometer be recorded in the selling or release document. If the actual miles is greater than the estimate, you pay the difference. If it is less, you get that money back. Every penny. There are other details to work out (interstate trucking, for example), but that’s my best suggestion for a Saturday morning.
Thomas Thieme almost 7 years ago
While the rest of the world converts to electric cars, the USA will be a captive consumer for the Saudis. $10 a gallon for us and meanwhile, the rich will have their electric cars.
Dtroutma almost 7 years ago
We’re paying a dollar ten more a gallon for regular, I remember when it was 23 CENTS a gallon, back in the gas guzzler 60’s. Don’t worry Payne, the glut is on right now, but the fossil fuel guys will keep manipulating. One thing states are looking at is taxing the MILES DRIVEN rather than gallons consumed, which means hybrids and electrics are making inroads, which we need to have happen. That’s why “oil” companies are investing in solar and wind, or other alternates so they won’t lose out when we do, if as needed, get serious about reducing carbon imprint.
streetbeater almost 7 years ago
Volvo just announced that in 2018 all their cars will be either hybrid or electric. That’s next year people.
streetbeater almost 7 years ago
Oops, my bad, 2019 http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/05/535596277/all-new-volvo-models-will-be-electric-or-hybrid-starting-in-2019
mr_sherman Premium Member almost 7 years ago
@TXGal: You have a legitimate use evidently of your need for what you drive. Compare that with what I mostly see in a semi-rural part of Oregon:Dodge Diesel Dually’s looking brand new and carrying nothing more than the Chihuahua in the driver’s lap. This isn’t the exception, I’m sorry to say. They look so new because the trucks only serve as testosterone supplements. All they carry are 250lb bags of hot air.
Uncle Joe Premium Member almost 7 years ago
Fact: In 1909, Payne’s great-grandpappy drew the same cartoon with a horse drawn carriage & one of those crazy Model T’s that Henry Ford said would be the future of transportation. Even by 1912, Ford sold a meager 68,000 Model Ts.
DrDon1 almost 7 years ago
Shouldn’t Payne just admit he prefers living in the past?
DrPawl almost 7 years ago
It’s interesting that Payne’s inane cartoon actually inspires a lot of intelligent comments.